Baylor Scheierman (Transfer Commit)

[jaysfan3]

So…. Kansas was never in the lead?

[Chicagojayfan]

We don’t need Baylor, he needs us. He would be the fifth or sixth best player on the team. He is having serious delusions thinking he can make the NBA. His Jackrabbit predecessor Mike Daum, the “dauminator”, averaged 10 ppg better than Baylor, and was a better rebounder, and a few inches taller, objectively MUCH better than Baylor. Daum did not get drafted and is playing Euro ball. Baylor would be a nice addition but he certainly is not someone I am personally salivating over, he is not “the missing piece”. We would do just fine without him.

Couldn't disagree with this post more any more than I do. Let's break it down.

1. Baylor needs Creighton more than Creighton needs Baylor. Wrong (IMO). He had or has nearly every blue blood program knocking on his door. Kansas wanted him and he just cut Kansas. The NIL money is likely greater in other situations. Even though our roster is fantastic, Baylor would slot in perfectly on the wing, be the stud shooter we don't really have (unless Ben Shtolzberg or Christofilis are that guy), provide additional quality depth and absolutely take our ceiling as a team up a notch.

2. He would be the fifth or sixth best player on our team. Wrong (IMO). Watch his tape; he's legit. He's an NBA prospect for a reason. Again, every program wanted/wants him.

3. Serious delusions about the NBA Wrong (IMO). He's listed in mock drafts as a second round pick. You seem to have some serious delusions about how to evaluate what NBA teams are looking for when you compare him to Mike Daum. Jacob summarized that flawed reasoning well. When you just point to a few stats and a few inches, and ignore all the legit reasons Baylor is a way better NBA prospect than Daum, it's not flattering.

4. We would do just fine without him. Agree here. But our ceiling/potential is even finer with him.

Generally agree with the overall point. He'd fit in really well for us - unlike a multi-year transfer, he also doesn't create a development block for the younger guys (causing potential turnover). He plays the style we like as he can score from every level, shoots to stretch the floor and handles and passes like a PG (a bit of what Grant Gibbs was thought to be like in his HS recruiting profile before the injuries hit him). 2/1 Assist/turnover rate, over 80% FT's the last 2 years, over 40% 3PT shooting the last 2 years w/ about an even split between 2 PT/3PT shots per game -- in sum, highly efficient scorer who shares the ball and distributes.

That said, I like having guys who have NBA potential, but the NCAA history is full of guys who've won championships without being top tier NBA prospects. I'm more concerned about whether or not he can play at a top tier level in the BE and in the NCAA tourney... and his history suggests that he can... not to mention being another veteran on a very young team.

Can we help him get to the NBA? I think so, Mac's a guy who'll put him into great situations to succeed in the BE, showing he can play against NBA caliber players. But more importantly, he's a guy who can help us go even further in the tourney.

[Eye of the Jay]

https://www.hoopsrumors.com/2022/04/202 ... watch.html

So, it sounds like withdrawal deadline to get NCAA eligibility back is June 1, so we’ll know for sure by then.

So you’re telling me there’s a chance! (20% now)

[Helmzy]

Get your hopes up

[anotherjayfan]

This situation has flipped on its head and I would love to hear the story of why when this is all over. People making lot of inferences on Baylor's motivations based on very little public info.

[SeattleJay]

Helmzy, my hopes couldn’t be any higher.

Are we going to have a BS week? Or do we have to wait for a BS later this month (after G league invite 5/10 - 5/14)?

[Jet915]

Helmzy, my hopes couldn’t be any higher.

Are we going to have a BS week? Or do we have to wait for a BS later this month (after G league invite 5/10 - 5/14)?

Agent said he will make decision in a week.

[Ethanfor3]

Only putting this here as there is a lot of discussion about NIL in this thread

https://1620thezone.com/sharp-and-benning-radio-replay/

May 2, Seg 7
Starts at roughly 22:30

Damon and Greg were talking about what many of us feel is the randomness of NIL right now.

Paraphrasing...

The people at Creighton, from the coaching staff to the people providing the NIL are completely on the same page as to how they're running the program. There are minimums and there are maximums for the players and the coaches basically say "here's what we'll provide and if you're willing to work in those parameters, we'd love to have you."

I'd love to hear more about this as I'm always worried about locker room when one guy gets his and another guy doesn't. I have no problem with guys getting paid, I just like some level of structure and it sounds like we have that with our program.

Will be interesting how the Baylor situation comes into sight over the next two weeks and whether the approach works for what is essentially a free agent right now versus how we're treating the current guys on the roster.

[SeattleJay]

Jet, the tweet cutting the list to 5 says decision in a week but also mentions G league elite invite which is the following week. But, I think you’re right as he’s not clear about participating in the G league elite tryouts. It could be read as by the way, the G league wants me too.

[Chicagojayfan]

Only putting this here as there is a lot of discussion about NIL in this thread

https://1620thezone.com/sharp-and-benning-radio-replay/

May 2, Seg 7
Starts at roughly 22:30

Damon and Greg were talking about what many of us feel is the randomness of NIL right now.

Paraphrasing...

The people at Creighton, from the coaching staff to the people providing the NIL are completely on the same page as to how they're running the program. There are minimums and there are maximums for the players and the coaches basically say "here's what we'll provide and if you're willing to work in those parameters, we'd love to have you."

I'd love to hear more about this as I'm always worried about locker room when one guy gets his and another guy doesn't. I have no problem with guys getting paid, I just like some level of structure and it sounds like we have that with our program.

Will be interesting how the Baylor situation comes into sight over the next two weeks and whether the approach works for what is essentially a free agent right now versus how we're treating the current guys on the roster.

Really good sign that the Coaches/program came into this with a clear plan and foresight about how to handle this - and something like this exemplifies the team approach we have on the court as well. I think in some cases, it's going to be less about the dollars and more about making sure the dollars are in the right ballpark IN ADDITION to offering the kid a great chance to develop and play.

If someone's making a ton of money, but sitting in a corner as a shooting decoy waiting for someone to pass them the ball isn't a role most kids would embrace. In this case, assuming the NIL's in the right ballpark, our system highlights what Scheierman looks like he does best