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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby bird_call » Sun May 01, 2022 8:51 pm

anotherjayfan wrote:That a guess or have something more to your belief in that? Rumblings I had heard was Creighton players were in the $20k range and they were pooling it and splitting it evenly to avoid locker room issues.


There is a lot of money flowing but I don't quite get why everyone imagines that millions of dollars appeared across the nation to pay every power 5+ athlete $100k/year.


Doesn't Warren Buffett live in Omaha and occasionally support the Jays? Ask the dude to contribute a couple bucks to the pool. Or maybe add a 0.0001% line item to his estate planning for Creighton.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby Alphawalt » Sun May 01, 2022 10:07 pm

We don’t need Baylor, he needs us. He would be the fifth or sixth best player on the team. He is having serious delusions thinking he can make the NBA. His Jackrabbit predecessor Mike Daum, the “dauminator”, averaged 10 ppg better than Baylor, and was a better rebounder, and a few inches taller, objectively MUCH better than Baylor. Daum did not get drafted and is playing Euro ball. Baylor would be a nice addition but he certainly is not someone I am personally salivating over, he is not “the missing piece”. We would do just fine without him.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby Venturajay » Sun May 01, 2022 10:16 pm

Baylor would be a nice addition to the squad but will not be our best player, potentially he is not even in the same ballpark as Trey and Kaluma in terms of NBA prospects.

However, if Baylor gets a large NIL deal out of CU,and our core group are not getting the same numbers as Baylor, I would hope that we would pass on Baylor. Having a dude from the summit league getting a larger NIL deal than the proven incumbents can't go over well in a locker room, in particular with 19 year old kids.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby Taco Bell » Sun May 01, 2022 10:34 pm

Please forgive my ignorance, but aren't we out of roster spots? If so, who is gone if we do indeed land Scheierman?
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby ZMagic30 » Sun May 01, 2022 10:36 pm

anotherjayfan wrote:
#RollJays wrote:Our starters are easily making 6 figures

That a guess or have something more to your belief in that? Rumblings I had heard was Creighton players were in the $20k range and they were pooling it and splitting it evenly to avoid locker room issues.


There is a lot of money flowing but I don't quite get why everyone imagines that millions of dollars appeared across the nation to pay every power 5+ athlete $100k/year.


From what I heard, the players made $20k to pool together just from the open scrimmage they held alone. Everything else I’ve heard has pointed to players getting 6 figures plus.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby whtblu » Sun May 01, 2022 10:53 pm

I don’t buy 6 figures unless you are counting the value of their scholarship in there. Simple Truth must be paying out like crazy if that’s true.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby JacobPadilla » Mon May 02, 2022 12:44 am

Alphawalt wrote:We don’t need Baylor, he needs us. He would be the fifth or sixth best player on the team. He is having serious delusions thinking he can make the NBA. His Jackrabbit predecessor Mike Daum, the “dauminator”, averaged 10 ppg better than Baylor, and was a better rebounder, and a few inches taller, objectively MUCH better than Baylor. Daum did not get drafted and is playing Euro ball. Baylor would be a nice addition but he certainly is not someone I am personally salivating over, he is not “the missing piece”. We would do just fine without him.


This is completely off the mark. Baylor is very much on the NBA radar and would possibly be a second-round pick if he stayed in the draft this year without even transferring up and proving himself further.

Daum was an amazing college player who lacked the physical traits to make it in the league at his position. Baylor has some defensive concerns for sure, but he's a 6'6" wing with point guard vision in addition to being an elite shooter. That translates better than a 6'9" center, even if that center can shoot the lights out as well.

You can question how he might translate to the high-major level, but the efficiency numbers he's put up throughout his career are absurd. He is a very, very good player.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby JacobPadilla » Mon May 02, 2022 12:48 am

slaw wrote:Hawkins was a spokesperson for First National Bank.

I'd rather not see numbers being shared publicly, as that can be a major distraction. I bet that Univ of Miami locker-room will be fun this season. Let's not have that at CU.

Wonder whether there is a relationship with Shereef. They probably operated in the same AAU circles (although different years).


Shereef and Baylor played together at OSA for a summer after Shereef reclassified. Akol Arop, Charlie Easley, John Tonje, Jaylin Hunter and Chase Thompson were all on that team as well.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby Dough Boy » Mon May 02, 2022 9:19 am

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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby vivid_dude » Mon May 02, 2022 9:28 am

Alphawalt wrote:We don’t need Baylor, he needs us. He would be the fifth or sixth best player on the team. He is having serious delusions thinking he can make the NBA. His Jackrabbit predecessor Mike Daum, the “dauminator”, averaged 10 ppg better than Baylor, and was a better rebounder, and a few inches taller, objectively MUCH better than Baylor. Daum did not get drafted and is playing Euro ball. Baylor would be a nice addition but he certainly is not someone I am personally salivating over, he is not “the missing piece”. We would do just fine without him.


Couldn't disagree with this post more any more than I do. Let's break it down.

1. Baylor needs Creighton more than Creighton needs Baylor. Wrong (IMO). He had or has nearly every blue blood program knocking on his door. Kansas wanted him and he just cut Kansas. The NIL money is likely greater in other situations. Even though our roster is fantastic, Baylor would slot in perfectly on the wing, be the stud shooter we don't really have (unless Ben Shtolzberg or Christofilis are that guy), provide additional quality depth and absolutely take our ceiling as a team up a notch.

2. He would be the fifth or sixth best player on our team. Wrong (IMO). Watch his tape; he's legit. He's an NBA prospect for a reason. Again, every program wanted/wants him.

3. Serious delusions about the NBA Wrong (IMO). He's listed in mock drafts as a second round pick. You seem to have some serious delusions about how to evaluate what NBA teams are looking for when you compare him to Mike Daum. Jacob summarized that flawed reasoning well. When you just point to a few stats and a few inches, and ignore all the legit reasons Baylor is a way better NBA prospect than Daum, it's not flattering.

4. We would do just fine without him. Agree here. But our ceiling/potential is even finer with him.
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