Oldfan wrote:I don't think there is any argument that we lost out on pretty much all of our main 2015 targets before getting in on Stewart and Martin late in the process.
Patton jumped ahead of our top big recruit and we dumped Illikainen in order to take him (would you rather we would have stuck it out to take the guy we liked less because of his ranking?). We then would have been happy to take nobody instead of Martin, but when he popped up we grabbed him. Again you say we got in on Stewart and Martin late, but so what? One is probably a top 150 guy (maybe better considering how he's playing now), and Martin is a 6-8 wing who can shoot and drive and defend who had Va Tech and WVU offers and had dumped a pro contract in order to come to the states.. You may not like the style points, but that's a very good bunch.
We offered a lot of guys who we didn't have a realistic chance of getting because we wanted to get to know a lot of the coaches in those areas and because we had some decent depth coming in and wanted to only add people if they were of a certain level. You seem to think this is like recruiting in the Valley where we recruit someone a long time and hope to hold onto them as interest builds and where we target a few carefully selected guys (even then you probably didn't realize how many players had dismissed us without us making a report of it in a recruiting update). When you recruit with the big boys you make a lot of offers and a lot of times you miss, but you keep recruiting and you keep looking for your kind of guys:
this was '14:
http://espn.go.com/colleges/basketball/ ... age/offersthis was '15
http://espn.go.com/colleges/basketball/ ... age/offersPart of what made '15 even more aggressive was that we just signed 2 top 100/150 guys AND got two top 50 transfers. We didn't need roster stuffers, we could swing for the fences and we did. We lost some, but in the end it's likely a top 50, a top 150 and a Euro player who dumped a pro contract to come here. That's a nice bunch.
compare to Nova's '13 class
http://espn.go.com/colleges/basketball/ ... age/offersthe guys they signed there were all within a hundred miles of home. They lost out on a ton of players, even on the higher ranked SF who they offered who was close to home and went to Syracuse instead.
Look at this class by Georgetown:
http://espn.go.com/colleges/basketball/ ... age/offersYou have to go way down the list to find the first guy they landed out of their offers.
Big programs often offer a lot of kids even though they are missing out on a ton also. It's part of the game at this level and likely an even bigger approach for us because we need to get out and meet a ton of new AAU coaches and HS coaches and introduce them to Creighton. We know we won't land many of the first recruits we target from those schools and AAU teams, but those contacts will be crucial moving forward.
Yeah, it sucks we lost out on some guys we liked, but it happens and you get over it. Instead of whining, I applaud our coaches for landing a class that brings in the kind of talent and athleticism we need.