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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby JacobPadilla » Mon Jan 06, 2025 12:52 am

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JacobPadilla wrote:+/- isn't an individual stat, it's a summary of what happened during a stretch of time. It's the start of an investigation, not an answer, but it's also not meaningless. Basketball is an organic sport where each of the 10 players on the court impacts the others; it's not a series of one-on-one matchups. A guy can shoot poorly while the team still operates well with him on the court in one-off situations. The game is complicated.

What +/- tells us is Creighton was objectively better with Miller on the court than off the last two games. Is that simply a result of shot variance in Creighton's favor when he was out there compared to when he wasn't? Or does it have to do with the way teams are playing on both ends when he's out there compared to other options? Either way, it isn't likely to hold up long-term with his current level of play, and the longer this goes on the more clear it becomes that he probably just isn't going to find his shot this year. But if you're focusing on Miller as the reason for the small margin of victory and the loss in the last two games, you're just barking up the wrong tree.

At this point fans are so hyper-fixated on every negative play he makes to the point of ignoring any positive results that may happen while he's on the floor. Mac highlighted the impact of his floor-spacing in the St. John's game, and while teams targeted him on defense in important situations earlier in the season to their benefit, I don't remember instances of that happening the last couple of games (could be wrong there; going off the dome). Five rebounds, three points, one assist and one dead-ball turnover in 15 minutes is an acceptable contribution for a 7th man in a game like this, even if he didn't make a 3.

Say there is pressure to keep Miller involved in the rotation going into a game. Once the bullets are flying, Mac's still playing to win and he's going to make the calls he thinks will give them the best chance of doing that. What he saw on Friday was Žugić unprepared for the on-ball pressure Marquette was applying (the happy feet travel and the pick-six pass, the latter of which you simply can't afford in that game) while Creighton was winning the minutes with Miller out there, so he let it ride. I can't really blame him for that. Marquette outscored Creighton 9-4 in the 91 seconds Zugic was on the court, scoring five points off his two turnovers (and CU's first point was Miller's second FT on a foul that happened before Fedor checked in).

Moving forward, for this team to approach its ceiling, that equation needs to start shifting in Žugić's favor. I don't know how many times Mac has told fans it's going to be a process. I can't really explain it any more clearly than I have on multiple platforms.


I appreciate the lengthy and informative explanation, and you probably know more about hoops then I will forget, but this still does not explain the rationale behind keeping a player who's best statistic is their +/- through two games in games over a player who has pro experience and obviously is in desperate need of actual playing time to perhaps ease the pressure and also get a good feel for Big East play.

We are likely at a point in the season where our NCAA tournament hopes will be decided in the next two weeks or so, and if there was ever a time to take a risk (it's not really a risk but Mac seems to be the most risk averse person out there) it is now. Stop playing Miller, play Green and Traudt who despite their flaws, have shown infinitely more improvement and promise than Miller, and get Zugic the experience he needs. I don't think fans are hyperfixated so much as they seem to recognize the biggest gaping hole in our roster while the coaching staff doesn't seem to. That has fans worried, and rightfully so. Miller shouldn't even be starting for most mid majors, much less a program who has regular tournament hopes and should be making it past the first weekend as the standard.


The issue is the gaping hole on the roster is an entire position, not an individual player (and you're kidding yourself if you think Mac watches the tape and doesn't see any problem with the way Mason's playing; he just hasn't reached the conclusion that benching him entirely will produce the results the team needs). With Neal having to play all his minutes at the 2, Creighton doesn't have an answer at the 3 on this roster right now. Jackson and Isaac are both strictly 4s. Jasen and Mason both take things you need at that spot off the table (and again, for whatever reason — could be random chance — Creighton was a lot better in this game with Mason in than Jasen, despite neither playing particularly well; Jasen still played 26 minutes to Mason's 14).

They do seem to be incorporating Fedor at the 2, but sliding Jamiya back to the 3 shouldn't be much of an issue if Fedor becomes a viable option for more extended minutes.

Mac's not going to do something ("take risks") that he has little faith in working. Fedor made some plays in the St. John's game and got a bit more run. Against Marquette, I'm guessing Mac felt they couldn't afford to let him "play through it" without digging too deep of a hole based on what he saw in the 91 seconds; he's coaching to win that game, not giving minutes for the sake of future development. Like any coach, he may not always make the right calls (like going zone in that game), but there is logic behind those decisions.

Mason also isn't starting anymore; they've already made that change. Hopefully Fedor can make the progress the team needs him to make soon.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby Realhoops » Mon Jan 06, 2025 11:59 am

Kalkbrenner on the Big East Honor Roll for last week’s performances. Dixon was POW.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby SeattleJay » Mon Jan 06, 2025 2:17 pm

It looks like our strength of schedule is up to 10 in Kenpom. All of our losses have been to pretty good teams. GT is the worst loss at 64 in Kenpom and 12-2 overall. Good quality wins at home against KU, SJU and Nova. Lets keep grinding and getting better.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby Django » Mon Jan 06, 2025 8:21 pm

SeattleJay wrote:It looks like our strength of schedule is up to 10 in Kenpom. All of our losses have been to pretty good teams. GT is the worst loss at 64 in Kenpom and 12-2 overall. Good quality wins at home against KU, SJU and Nova. Lets keep grinding and getting better.


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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby CUGrads03 » Mon Jan 06, 2025 10:54 pm

Generally speaking, the arguments posted here have been pretty good reading. At least we have stuff to read and talk about, right? It’s not boring, so that’s a plus. ;-)

Gotta dance with the dates ya brought. Mac and crew are putting every ounce into figuring this thing out, I’m sure. And no matter how much it bugs us, it bugs him/them even more, which is great to know.

FWIW so y’all can roast me:
The first few times I saw Ashworth, I thought he was horrible. Now look at him. Boy was I wrong.
I’d give Fedor a D- from what I’ve seen so far. Heck, his 3 was only slightly better than Miller’s because it went in…eventually. But he sure seemed pumped when it did! I like the excitement but am shocked how lost he looks.
Miller’s shot is just ungodly awful right now. I agree with LJay that his hands almost looked crossed. Super weird. But he’s flying around a decent amount and if him being on the floor spaces things better or even leads the other coach to think they can put a lower caliber player in because he’s in and we somehow can take advantage and the +/- goes in Miller’s favor? Sweet. Points on the board.
If I’m being honest, I saw Pop (who was good but not great) shutting it down and looked around this team to see where the points were going to come from, and I was very nervous. The fact we’re holding up like we are (ok, a drubbing against GT but a win against Nova, Pitino, and a pretty close loss to the #8 team in the country (they might not have played great but maybe that was because of us too) who also rarely loses at home, isn’t the worst place we could be right now.

I’ve seen worse.
I have hope.
Don’t have any idea where this year or next goes for that matter, but I’ll keep following along and flying the flag outside my house like I know we all will.

Go Jays.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby Angry Dan » Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:08 am

I try to avoid snapshots. Don’t let a couple of bad snapshots dictate how you feel about the whole season.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby cujaysfan » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:42 pm

Damn - Just looked ahead at the schedule - only one home game until the last couple days of January from here?

Getting things figured out on the road is another tall task. Nothing breaking the Jays way.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby Jays26 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 4:59 pm

3 home and 3 road left this month.
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Re: 2024-25 Season

Postby jays911 » Tue Jan 07, 2025 9:23 pm

Anybody watching Georgetown/Marquette? These announcers are so biased for Marquette.
So long Valley, hello big time.
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