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Re: NIL

Postby cujaysfan » Fri May 03, 2024 9:04 am

The yahoo guys pod is a really good listen on this. Lays a lot of it out and what some of the consequences may be.

I was thinking while listening that there may be an advantage for basketball schools vs football. While we will never compete with the overall dollars that football has, we also won't have to split in so many ways with football being a numbers sport that must be matched by title ix.

The devil will be in the details of course. Stay tuned.
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Re: NIL

Postby NYC-bluejay » Fri May 03, 2024 10:34 am

cujaysfan wrote:The yahoo guys pod is a really good listen on this. Lays a lot of it out and what some of the consequences may be.

I was thinking while listening that there may be an advantage for basketball schools vs football. While we will never compete with the overall dollars that football has, we also won't have to split in so many ways with football being a numbers sport that must be matched by title ix.

The devil will be in the details of course. Stay tuned.


People say this a lot, but it’s really irrelevant because it’s not coming from a fixed pool. If we have a pot of, say, 3 million, all of that goes into basketball, yes. But if a school with multiple billionaire boosters like Arkansas has a pot of, say, 10 million, they can put 5 million of that into football and still be able to outspend us by 2 million.
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Re: NIL

Postby brianjay1317 » Fri May 03, 2024 10:47 am

NYC-bluejay wrote:
cujaysfan wrote:The yahoo guys pod is a really good listen on this. Lays a lot of it out and what some of the consequences may be.

I was thinking while listening that there may be an advantage for basketball schools vs football. While we will never compete with the overall dollars that football has, we also won't have to split in so many ways with football being a numbers sport that must be matched by title ix.

The devil will be in the details of course. Stay tuned.


People say this a lot, but it’s really irrelevant because it’s not coming from a fixed pool. If we have a pot of, say, 3 million, all of that goes into basketball, yes. But if a school with multiple billionaire boosters like Arkansas has a pot of, say, 10 million, they can put 5 million of that into football and still be able to outspend us by 2 million.

a football team has almost as many starters on one side of the ball than an entire college basketball team.
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Re: NIL

Postby NUgradCUfan » Fri May 03, 2024 12:34 pm

NYC-bluejay wrote:
cujaysfan wrote:The yahoo guys pod is a really good listen on this. Lays a lot of it out and what some of the consequences may be.

I was thinking while listening that there may be an advantage for basketball schools vs football. While we will never compete with the overall dollars that football has, we also won't have to split in so many ways with football being a numbers sport that must be matched by title ix.

The devil will be in the details of course. Stay tuned.


People say this a lot, but it’s really irrelevant because it’s not coming from a fixed pool. If we have a pot of, say, 3 million, all of that goes into basketball, yes. But if a school with multiple billionaire boosters like Arkansas has a pot of, say, 10 million, they can put 5 million of that into football and still be able to outspend us by 2 million.


I think the amount that universities will have to pay football players will increase substantially more than basketball when this is inevitably passed. Football is the revenue generator, and the players will be paid as the generators they should.
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Re: NIL

Postby HandDownManDown » Fri May 03, 2024 12:55 pm

Archie Manning’s grandson made more money sitting on the bench at Texas than Brock Purdy made leading the Niners to the Super Bowl.

This is why we aren’t close to peak insanity: there’s no telling how high football salaries team-wise might go. While that’s potentially a good thing in sucking up a ton of resources, it could boomerang on us by making a handful of millions to have a killer hoops program look cheap in comparison.

If a dozen school collectives come to that conclusion we could be swamped immediately.
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Re: NIL

Postby Chicagojayfan » Fri May 03, 2024 1:05 pm

HandDownManDown wrote:Archie Manning’s grandson made more money sitting on the bench at Texas than Brock Purdy made leading the Niners to the Super Bowl.

This is why we aren’t close to peak insanity: there’s no telling how high football salaries team-wise might go. While that’s potentially a good thing in sucking up a ton of resources, it could boomerang on us by making a handful of millions to have a killer hoops program look cheap in comparison.

If a dozen school collectives come to that conclusion we could be swamped immediately.


Yep, and that the B10/SEC look at this wild west era of NIL as a chance to stomp out all the other conferences as viable contenders (after cherry picking a few top programs to join them)

Only positive is that even lousy football programs at the big schools are seen as imperative to the school's image
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Re: NIL

Postby SeattleJay » Sun May 05, 2024 9:15 am

A pretty good article in the World Herald largely quoting Rasmussen

https://omaha.com/sports/college/creigh ... 92695.html

The model is changing from collectives paying athletes, to Universities paying athletes through revenue sharing.
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Postby LJay » Tue Jul 09, 2024 9:17 pm

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Re: NIL

Postby cujaysfan » Fri Jul 19, 2024 1:45 pm

Some of the talk out of SEC media day is that they're carving up $20M per team and football is getting 75%.

Speculation from the Yahoo sports guys that men's basketball would get about 15% or $3M which breaks down to about $200k on 15 man roster.

Seems like we are within range on that and can be competitive for now.

Of course they also brought up that you can choose your poison on which lawsuit to swallow, title ix or players. But no matter how you break it down someone will be pissed and let the lawsuits fly.
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Re: NIL

Postby #RollJays » Fri Jul 19, 2024 2:05 pm

cujaysfan wrote:Some of the talk out of SEC media day is that they're carving up $20M per team and football is getting 75%.

Speculation from the Yahoo sports guys that men's basketball would get about 15% or $3M which breaks down to about $200k on 15 man roster.

Seems like we are within range on that and can be competitive for now.

Of course they also brought up that you can choose your poison on which lawsuit to swallow, title ix or players. But no matter how you break it down someone will be pissed and let the lawsuits fly.

This is why you see some teams gravitating towards smaller rosters. Chop that $3 million 9-10 ways instead of 12-13 ways.
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