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Re: Coach Mac

Postby DaJaysBB » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:17 pm

I’m sure this has been hit over and over again, but where do the rumors about Mac/Hendrickson/Blossom not getting along come from? I get Ras and Mac had a special relationship, but everyone takes those three hating each other as fact without any sort of sourcing

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Re: Coach Mac

Postby HandDownManDown » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:20 pm

So there’s been open talk on someplace other than here that specifically name checks Father and casts him as the primary villain?

Do you have a link? Because while I’ve seen things that will vaguely state something like ‘I’ve heard rumblings that things aren’t perfect in Omaha and Mac might take this offseason to see what’s out there’ I have not seen what you’re referring to, it must be today?

Source?
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby TrueBlueJay » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:21 pm

DaJaysBB wrote:I’m sure this has been hit over and over again, but where do the rumors about Mac/Hendrickson/Blossom not getting along? I get Ras and Max had a special relationship, but everyone takes those three hating each other as fact without any sort of sourcing


Not everyone. I asked this same question last week and the only answer I got back was Blossom isn’t Ras.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby HandDownManDown » Tue Feb 27, 2024 8:24 pm

DaJaysBB wrote:I’m sure this has been hit over and over again, but where do the rumors about Mac/Hendrickson/Blossom not getting along? I get Ras and Max had a special relationship, but everyone takes those three hating each other as fact without any sort of sourcing


It doesn’t dovetail with anything whatsoever that I’ve heard. There’s a difference between not having the bosom buddies relationship Mac had with Ras and hating your employer.

I also know this: the whole FH wanted Mac gone but Bruce intervened is 100 percent bullshit. I’ll say that even though I was told to do so would be pointless because the board has swallowed that as an accepted truth and won’t budge off if it.

The adults in the room are handling this. That this thread isn’t even that old and we are on the doorstep of an extension should be a relief to anyone leery about our leadership, but apparently it isn’t.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby bluejayfan00 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:42 pm

Nothing new necessarily, just relaying what was said- but DeMarinis was on with Ravi and DB yesterday morning. Said he thinks there was nothing groundbreaking from either Shatel's reporting, or Goodman's. Said it's all basically PR at this point, and CU "leaking" it to Shatel or to whoever else is them saying to the fanbase hey we're doing everything we can to lock him up, get off our backs for a minute. Then Goodman tweeting that nothing is imminent is likely agent speak to drive up the price, and keep offers/interest coming in so they can continue to do that. He said from everything he is hearing, there's nothing that makes him thing it's done or close to being done. I think the word he used was "definitive" Said it's not a distraction to the team either, because it so veteran heavy that a lot of those guys won't be playing for Mac next year anyways. Said they're really excited about the recruiting class, but that class loves the staff and the style of play, so they'd likely follow them where they go anyways. He ended up saying if he had to bet on it, he would bet Mac is back next year, but doesn't know. Said even if he is back, it doesn't really fix or cure the things that are causing the rifts, so it would likely continue next year and the year after and however long he is here.

Also said he'd be shocked if Kalkbrenner was back next year cause he thinks he's good enough and playing well enough to be a pro. But, he likes Omaha and if his NIL deal is similar to whatever he could get for pro money, he can see it happening.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby bluejayfan00 » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:43 pm

HandDownManDown wrote:
DaJaysBB wrote:I’m sure this has been hit over and over again, but where do the rumors about Mac/Hendrickson/Blossom not getting along? I get Ras and Max had a special relationship, but everyone takes those three hating each other as fact without any sort of sourcing


It doesn’t dovetail with anything whatsoever that I’ve heard. There’s a difference between not having the bosom buddies relationship Mac had with Ras and hating your employer.

I also know this: the whole FH wanted Mac gone but Bruce intervened is 100 percent bullshit. I’ll say that even though I was told to do so would be pointless because the board has swallowed that as an accepted truth and won’t budge off if it.

The adults in the room are handling this. That this thread isn’t even that old and we are on the doorstep of an extension should be a relief to anyone leery about our leadership, but apparently it isn’t.


No disrespect, but I know it's 100% NOT bullshit.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby Trifecta » Wed Feb 28, 2024 1:48 pm

bluejayfan00 wrote:
HandDownManDown wrote:
DaJaysBB wrote:I’m sure this has been hit over and over again, but where do the rumors about Mac/Hendrickson/Blossom not getting along? I get Ras and Max had a special relationship, but everyone takes those three hating each other as fact without any sort of sourcing


It doesn’t dovetail with anything whatsoever that I’ve heard. There’s a difference between not having the bosom buddies relationship Mac had with Ras and hating your employer.

I also know this: the whole FH wanted Mac gone but Bruce intervened is 100 percent bullshit. I’ll say that even though I was told to do so would be pointless because the board has swallowed that as an accepted truth and won’t budge off if it.

The adults in the room are handling this. That this thread isn’t even that old and we are on the doorstep of an extension should be a relief to anyone leery about our leadership, but apparently it isn’t.


No disrespect, but I know it's 100% NOT bullshit.


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Re: Coach Mac

Postby HandDownManDown » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:09 pm

1. Bruce was already in a tough spot for the Murphy report. He didn’t have the capital he once had in this matter.

2. In what world does the school President get overruled by the AD? None. As DC Jay said, this is a university with athletics programs and not the other way around.

It’s known that Bruce actively stumped for Mac with Father. How that metastasized into he got to intervene is something else entirely. It was in no way Bruce’s call, and even the most cursory logic would tell you that, regardless of rumor. You can be absolutely certain that if Father wanted him gone we would have had a new coach. Period.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby omajay » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:26 pm

HandDownManDown wrote:1. Bruce was already in a tough spot for the Murphy report. He didn’t have the capital he once had in this matter.

2. In what world does the school President get overruled by the AD? None. As DC Jay said, this is a university with athletics programs and not the other way around.

It’s known that Bruce actively stumped for Mac with Father. How that metastasized into he got to intervene is something else entirely. It was in no way Bruce’s call, and even the most cursory logic would tell you that, regardless of rumor. You can be absolutely certain that if Father wanted him gone we would have had a new coach. Period.



Ras "intervening" doesn't mean that he "overruled" Father. Also, maybe booster/donors stepped in and supported Mac, and you have to keep big money donors happy. In reality, there are only a handful of people who truly know what happened.
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Re: Coach Mac

Postby cujaysfan » Wed Feb 28, 2024 2:46 pm

i think it's like this

FH wanted Mac gone and if he could have done that without consequences - it would have happened

but the fallout from that from a donor, board, $$$, and personnel standpoint outweighed it

welcome to the the politics of Creighton
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