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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby Trifecta » Sun May 01, 2022 5:10 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:https://www.aseaofblue.com/2022/5/1/23052136/baylor-scheierman-kentucky-wildcats-basketball-recruiting-news

Well, if routine UK NIL wasn't good enough and his handlers wanted more, I seriously doubt lil cr8n will have the sort of NIL offers
that would interest Scheierman and his agents. We're talking $50-100K worth of Runzas.

I hope the staff will reach out to Kerwin Walton.


I think you are vastly underrating Creighton's ability to pay out NIL in that range. Pretty sure our collective could pony up that much money for one player very easily. The question is whether or not Baylor wants three or four times that amount which is what was reported...
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby gtmoBlue » Sun May 01, 2022 5:47 pm

NIL

https://opendorse.com/nil-insights/

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-wort ... ge-sports/

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-wort ... asketball/

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1088223526

https://omaha.com/sports/college/creigh ... 73de0.html

The Silverstone Group I Hub Bluejays Basketball Fan Fest - October 2021. Was a player Saturday fan event at the CHICO. Each player reportedly received $5K.

Jays team members below. Value of their deals is unknown.
Trey Alexander - Has a deal with an apparel company, DreamPrints Gear, based in his hometown of Oklahoma City.
And he's got personalized wristbands available via Stand With Bands, a business started locally to promote athletes and their charitable causes.
A Sports drink deal?
Alex O'Connell - Posts a couple social media posts per month for a jewelry company
Ryan Hawkins - Hosted a camp in his hometown of Atlantic, Iowa.
Keyshawn Feazell - Apparel line sales.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby Trifecta » Sun May 01, 2022 5:50 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:NIL

https://opendorse.com/nil-insights/

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-wort ... ge-sports/

https://www.gobankingrates.com/net-wort ... asketball/

https://www.npr.org/transcripts/1088223526

https://omaha.com/sports/college/creigh ... 73de0.html

The Silverstone Group I Hub Bluejays Basketball Fan Fest - October 2021. Was a player Saturday fan event at the CHICO. Each player reportedly received $5K.

Jays team members below. Value of their deals is unknown.
Trey Alexander - Has a deal with an apparel company, DreamPrints Gear, based in his hometown of Oklahoma City.
And he's got personalized wristbands available via Stand With Bands, a business started locally to promote athletes and their charitable causes.
A Sports drink deal?
Alex O'Connell - Posts a couple social media posts per month for a jewelry company
Ryan Hawkins - Hosted a camp in his hometown of Atlantic, Iowa.
Keyshawn Feazell - Apparel line sales.


And that is not even remotely close to what they're making on a early basis...
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby gtmoBlue » Sun May 01, 2022 6:07 pm

Trifecta wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:https://www.aseaofblue.com/2022/5/1/23052136/baylor-scheierman-kentucky-wildcats-basketball-recruiting-news

Well, if routine UK NIL wasn't good enough and his handlers wanted more, I seriously doubt lil cr8n will have the sort of NIL offers
that would interest Scheierman and his agents. We're talking $50-100K worth of Runzas.

I hope the staff will reach out to Kerwin Walton.


I think you are vastly underrating Creighton's ability to pay out NIL in that range. Pretty sure our collective could pony up that much money for one player very easily. The question is whether or not Baylor wants three or four times that amount which is what was reported...


Creighton has a "collective"? I suppose it's a group of individual donors, not corporate NIL players.

If none of our 4-star players are getting NIL from your collective: BigRyan, Arthur, or Trey (or significant NIL in the case of Trey) currently. And you had no money for Hawk or AOC. So now you want to pony up $400K to a former NR 2019 recruit, playing in the Summit League, as a recruiting enticement. How damaging a blow is that to the team chemistry and cohesiveness?

It would be good to have a Corporate collective: 1st Nat'l Bank, ConAgra, Berkshire, Mutual of Omaha, TD Ameritrade, even some smaller companies, etc. Players could actually 'earn' NIL via performing advertising, Media campaigns, appearances, corporate promotions, social media postings, etc. You know, 'normal' NIL deals. Booster collectives are a nice, new fangled way to say Slush Fund, under the table deals, etc. Just like in the good old days. Only today it's legal.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby slaw » Sun May 01, 2022 6:11 pm

Hawkins was a spokesperson for First National Bank.

I'd rather not see numbers being shared publicly, as that can be a major distraction. I bet that Univ of Miami locker-room will be fun this season. Let's not have that at CU.

Wonder whether there is a relationship with Shereef. They probably operated in the same AAU circles (although different years).
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby gtmoBlue » Sun May 01, 2022 6:59 pm

A Creighton NIL/Omaha NIL Cooperative Fund could work. It could legally be set up as a Trust, Foundation, or LLC. The top 20 companies (and perhaps a few fatcat individuals) pony up $100K a year, tax-deductible as a business expense. Once set up, the fund could offer CU and UNO athletics NIL deals via OpenDorse or their agents. Typical deals would be in the $50K-100K a year to top CU/UNO athletes. On occasion, maybe a bit higher, given extenuating circumstances ( a top recruit commits).

Hypothetical example:
The ONCF takes in $2.5 million per year. 10-20% operating expenses. In this case 10%. That leaves $2.25 million for NIL deals. The donating companies and individuals audit the ONCF annually or every 2 years as per the ONCF charter. ONCF grants 3 $100k and 5 $50K deals to CU athletes. It grants 1 $100k and 4 $50k deals to UNO athletes. Players earn their NIL via performing advertising, Media campaigns, appearances, corporate promotions, endorsements, social media postings, etc., for the companies funding the ONCF. You know, 'normal' NIL deals.

That's $550K for Jays athletes and $300K for UNO athletes, for a total of $850K in annual deals in year 1 (13 athletes). The other $1.65M is earning interest.
In year 2 maybe a kid graduates or transfers - that grant/deal is not spent, or maybe it is doled out in a new deal to a new player. In any event such NIL deals may expand to 20 athletes (10 per school) annually, over time. Legal, clean, auditable, and equitable to Omaha, both universities, and to the athletes.

Numbers are NOT a distraction. If the Omaha NIL Cooperative Fund gives out standard NIL deals to top athletics, there is no problem. When Gatorade gives out a $2 Million deal to whomever, it is public...not a problem. It is the shady, backroom, under the table deals that bring trouble. None of the typical historical clandestine, under-the-table crap, longstanding with collegiate booster clubs and the like.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby #RollJays » Sun May 01, 2022 7:14 pm

Our starters are easily making 6 figures
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby CPJays » Sun May 01, 2022 7:14 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:A Creighton NIL/Omaha NIL Cooperative Fund could work. It could legally be set up as a Trust, Foundation, or LLC. The top 20 companies (and perhaps a few fatcat individuals) pony up $100K a year, tax-deductible as a business expense. Once set up, the fund could offer CU and UNO athletics NIL deals via OpenDorse or their agents. Typical deals would be in the $50K-100K a year to top CU/UNO athletes. On occasion, maybe a bit higher, given extenuating circumstances ( a top recruit commits).

Hypothetical example:
The ONCF takes in $2.5 million per year. 10-20% operating expenses. In this case 10%. That leaves $2 million for NIL deals. The donating companies and individuals audit the ONCF annually or every 2 years as per the ONCF charter. ONCF grants 3 $100k and 5 $50K deals to CU athletes. It grants 1 $100k and 4 $50k deals to UNO athletes. Players earn their NIL via performing advertising, Media campaigns, appearances, corporate promotions, endorsements, social media postings, etc., for the companies funding the ONCF. You know, 'normal' NIL deals.

That's $550K for Jays athletes and $300K for UNO athletes, for a total of $850K in annual deals in year 1 (13 athletes). The other $1.15M is earning interest.
In year 2 maybe a kid graduates or transfers - that grant/deal is not spent, or maybe it is doled out in a new deal to a new player. In any event such NIL deals may expand to 20 athletes (10 per school) annually, over time. Legal, clean, auditable, and equitable to Omaha, both universities, and to the athletes.

Numbers are NOT a distraction. If the Omaha NIL Cooperative Fund gives out standard NIL deals to top athletics, there is no problem. When Gatorade gives out a $2 Million deal to whomever, it is public...not a problem. It is the shady, backroom, under the table deals that bring trouble. None of the typical historical clandestine, under-the-table crap, longstanding with collegiate booster clubs and the like.


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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby gtmoBlue » Sun May 01, 2022 7:50 pm

#RollJays wrote:Our starters are easily making 6 figures


NIL deals? Foreign players are not eligible for NIL.
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Re: Baylor Scheierman

Postby anotherjayfan » Sun May 01, 2022 8:00 pm

#RollJays wrote:Our starters are easily making 6 figures

That a guess or have something more to your belief in that? Rumblings I had heard was Creighton players were in the $20k range and they were pooling it and splitting it evenly to avoid locker room issues.


There is a lot of money flowing but I don't quite get why everyone imagines that millions of dollars appeared across the nation to pay every power 5+ athlete $100k/year.
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