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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby bird_call » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:10 pm

Giving guys open shots that can't hit 3s is called a game plan. Teams just played solid man-to-man on Hawkins, Alex, and Nembhard and sagged off everyone else on the perimeter.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby Chicagojayfan » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:42 pm

bird_call wrote:Giving guys open shots that can't hit 3s is called a game plan. Teams just played solid man-to-man on Hawkins, Alex, and Nembhard and sagged off everyone else on the perimeter.


Too many games they were able to play tight on Hawkins, watched Alex most of the time and sagged off everyone, and when Alex wasn't hitting just guarded Hawkins. We had a real lack of shooters last year... or rather a lack of consistent shooting (we were very hot and very cold)
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby Chicagojayfan » Fri Apr 15, 2022 3:48 pm

bird_call wrote:
Chicagojayfan wrote:
I think that given our spacing, I'd think we could find him a lot of open 3's


The returning squad has no spacing. We graduated our only two volume 3-point shooters. We need to replace 12 3PA per game. Our returning guys made a total of 89 3s in 35 games last year (2.54 per game) on 336 attempts (9.6 per game) for a whopping 26.5% from 3. And that was from a squad that finished in the bottom 15% of all teams in the country in 3P%.


As Syajeulb noted, we got some pretty good spacing in almost every game last year. Outside of Hawkins we didn't have a consistent threat that needed to be guarded every game. O'Connell got hot at times, and Nembhard did hit shots at times (26% in conference), but we need shooters (either portal or developed) next year. - Farabello would have been our best 3 PT shooter last year by about 25 pts, and his career average is 40% better than Hawkins was last year.

I also expect Kaluma, Nembhard, and Alexander to both shoot much better next year, while Miller should be able to hit shots early in the year (extra year of practice will help).. and don't count out Kalk getting comfortable from 3 PT, but that's counting on a lot of development

Farabello has a super low usage and a super high 3 PT shooting percentage and one of our coaches knows him really well. I can definitely understand this
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby JacobPadilla » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:00 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:Farabello - team player, glue guy, hits FTs...

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Fran took a lot of heat on this board but he was a big part of this team's success this year. Not great defensively but hit some big shots on offense and by all accounts was a great teammate and leader. I think his playing time was probably going to suffer next year with the two redshirt guards ready to come back. Nevertheless, I wish him the very best and hope he knows he will be missed and will always be considered a Frog for life! Good luck Fran!
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(If we're going this route...I'd have taken UNO's Fidler/Bellevue West...)

Yep. This is a 'trust the coaches' move.


You can't take someone who isn't in the portal.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby bird_call » Fri Apr 15, 2022 5:54 pm

Were you guys watching the same offense last year as I was? Or maybe we have different definitions of 'spacing'?

Farabello seems like a fine guy off the bench for 15-20 mpg, but I don't think he'll be getting 30 mpg unless one of our main guards gets injured.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby whtblu » Fri Apr 15, 2022 6:40 pm

bird_call wrote:Were you guys watching the same offense last year as I was? Or maybe we have different definitions of 'spacing'?

Farabello seems like a fine guy off the bench for 15-20 mpg, but I don't think he'll be getting 30 mpg unless one of our main guards gets injured.


Who said they expected him to play 30 per game? I think everyone has basically said 10-20 range. Give us a boost off the bench. Maybe he can our version of the guy every other team seems to have when we play them. You know…the bench guy who comes in and hits like 6-8 from deep to lead the team in scoring.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby Dough Boy » Fri Apr 15, 2022 7:50 pm

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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby gtmoBlue » Fri Apr 15, 2022 8:17 pm

Transfers with known CU Interest updated 4-13-22

** =Grad Transfer
Blue= Best wing candidates imho
Brown= Committed elsewhere

Guards Hgt Pts Splits Fm To
DeAndre Gholston UWM / Mizzou
Sam Griesell N. Dak St. / UNL
Erik Stevenson** So Carolina / WVA
Mark Sears Ohio U / Alabama
Will Richard So Belmont / Florida
Cam Hayes Jr NC St. / LSU
Sean McNeil Sr WVA /
Jalein Llewellyn** Princeton / Clemson
Tristen Newton Sr E Carolina / UConn
Cam Wynter** Drexel / Penn St
Ethan Wright** Princeton / Colorado



Souley Boum** 6_3 19.8 41/37/85 UTEP


Forwards
Jaylan Gainey Brown U / Fla St.
Dischon Thomas 6_9 Colo St / Montana
Mwani Wilkinson 6_6 SF LSU / LSU
(back to)


Ben Carlson 6_10 Wisconsin



Center
Gabe Wiznitzer 6_11 L'ville / Ohio U

F Aimaq 7_0 Utah Valley
Xavier Foster 7_0 DNP Iowa St



2022 Frosh Decomits w Jays Interest
Fred King Ctr Louisville
DJ Jefferson SF Tulsa
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby Alphawalt » Sat Apr 16, 2022 1:56 am

Chicagojayfan wrote:
bird_call wrote:
Chicagojayfan wrote:
I think that given our spacing, I'd think we could find him a lot of open 3's


The returning squad has no spacing. We graduated our only two volume 3-point shooters. We need to replace 12 3PA per game. Our returning guys made a total of 89 3s in 35 games last year (2.54 per game) on 336 attempts (9.6 per game) for a whopping 26.5% from 3. And that was from a squad that finished in the bottom 15% of all teams in the country in 3P%.


As Syajeulb noted, we got some pretty good spacing in almost every game last year. Outside of Hawkins we didn't have a consistent threat that needed to be guarded every game. O'Connell got hot at times, and Nembhard did hit shots at times (26% in conference), but we need shooters (either portal or developed) next year. - Farabello would have been our best 3 PT shooter last year by about 25 pts, and his career average is 40% better than Hawkins was last year.

I also expect Kaluma, Nembhard, and Alexander to both shoot much better next year, while Miller should be able to hit shots early in the year (extra year of practice will help).. and don't count out Kalk getting comfortable from 3 PT, but that's counting on a lot of development

Farabello has a super low usage and a super high 3 PT shooting percentage and one of our coaches knows him really well. I can definitely understand this


Ok, let me be specific - he did not have good games against athletic teams with good defense. Against Arizona - 0 points. Iowa st. - 0 points. Baylor -0 points one game, 3 points another game. Texas - 0 points one game, 2 points another game. Several other games with 0 points. I think this is definitely a reach and we should hold out for someone better. Coaches not making a good decision here if they end up signing him. He seems like a good guy, but don’t see the added value to what we have now.
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Re: 2022 Transfer Thread

Postby REALITY » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:25 am

Alphawalt wrote:
Chicagojayfan wrote:
bird_call wrote:The returning squad has no spacing. We graduated our only two volume 3-point shooters. We need to replace 12 3PA per game. Our returning guys made a total of 89 3s in 35 games last year (2.54 per game) on 336 attempts (9.6 per game) for a whopping 26.5% from 3. And that was from a squad that finished in the bottom 15% of all teams in the country in 3P%.


As Syajeulb noted, we got some pretty good spacing in almost every game last year. Outside of Hawkins we didn't have a consistent threat that needed to be guarded every game. O'Connell got hot at times, and Nembhard did hit shots at times (26% in conference), but we need shooters (either portal or developed) next year. - Farabello would have been our best 3 PT shooter last year by about 25 pts, and his career average is 40% better than Hawkins was last year.

I also expect Kaluma, Nembhard, and Alexander to both shoot much better next year, while Miller should be able to hit shots early in the year (extra year of practice will help).. and don't count out Kalk getting comfortable from 3 PT, but that's counting on a lot of development

Farabello has a super low usage and a super high 3 PT shooting percentage and one of our coaches knows him really well. I can definitely understand this


Ok, let me be specific - he did not have good games against athletic teams with good defense. Against Arizona - 0 points. Iowa st. - 0 points. Baylor -0 points one game, 3 points another game. Texas - 0 points one game, 2 points another game. Several other games with 0 points. I think this is definitely a reach and we should hold out for someone better. Coaches not making a good decision here if they end up signing him. He seems like a good guy, but don’t see the added value to what we have now.

Yeah, I’m going to trust the coaches over someone on the Internet, sorry.
And any additional, reliable shooting is added value to the core we have. And by the way, those lines are a) from last year when he played the least he ever had, b) what you expect for shooting specialists against good teams - good teams are well-coached, well-coached teams generally play good scouting report defense, and c) on a team that probably isn’t as good as getting shooters open looks as we do.
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