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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby shadow » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:09 pm

And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby vivid_dude » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:30 pm

shadow wrote:And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?


Are you serious? I can’t tell if you’re ironically being a parody of an annoying, ignorant, caricature sports fan, or if this is legit?
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby Trifecta » Wed Apr 15, 2020 9:41 pm

shadow wrote:And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?


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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby REALITY » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:18 pm

shadow wrote:And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?

Ugh. Perhaps a bit of an overreaction?

I will say this, though, it's disheartening to miss on so many sit one transfers. I'm sure a good portion of them are unrealistically hoping that the NCAA does away with the resident year this summer effective immediately (personally, I hate the idea since it'll turn mid-major leagues into a glorified farm system and because every player still can play a full 4 years of college ball despite sitting out a season) and thus we weren't attractive in the slightest because of our playing time situation - at least before Ty-Shon announced his departure. That said, as of now we've only got six scholarship players for 21-22. Forget just getting BE level talent, we need bodies, period, for that year.
So while it's overreaction now, I won't lie that I'm starting to get nervous. We're putting pretty much all of our eggs in the baskets of Tamar Bates, Sallis, Jalen Warley, Tucker DeVries, etc. if we don't get any more sit out transfers. And to be totally honest, our overall recruiting performance since the Class of 2017 (TSA, Mitch, Jacob class) doesn't exactly comfort me.
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby jaysfan3 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 1:42 pm

REALITY wrote:
shadow wrote:And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?

Ugh. Perhaps a bit of an overreaction?

I will say this, though, it's disheartening to miss on so many sit one transfers. I'm sure a good portion of them are unrealistically hoping that the NCAA does away with the resident year this summer effective immediately (personally, I hate the idea since it'll turn mid-major leagues into a glorified farm system and because every player still can play a full 4 years of college ball despite sitting out a season) and thus we weren't attractive in the slightest because of our playing time situation - at least before Ty-Shon announced his departure. That said, as of now we've only got six scholarship players for 21-22. Forget just getting BE level talent, we need bodies, period, for that year.
So while it's overreaction now, I won't lie that I'm starting to get nervous. We're putting pretty much all of our eggs in the baskets of Tamar Bates, Sallis, Jalen Warley, Tucker DeVries, etc. if we don't get any more sit out transfers. And to be totally honest, our overall recruiting performance since the Class of 2017 (TSA, Mitch, Jacob class) doesn't exactly comfort me.


Marcus Zegarowski, Christian Bishop, Denzel Mahoney, Antwann Jones, Alex O’Connell and Ryan Kalkbrenner don’t comfort you?
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby mel ott » Thu Apr 16, 2020 2:14 pm

jaysfan3 wrote:
REALITY wrote:
shadow wrote:And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?

Ugh. Perhaps a bit of an overreaction?

I will say this, though, it's disheartening to miss on so many sit one transfers. I'm sure a good portion of them are unrealistically hoping that the NCAA does away with the resident year this summer effective immediately (personally, I hate the idea since it'll turn mid-major leagues into a glorified farm system and because every player still can play a full 4 years of college ball despite sitting out a season) and thus we weren't attractive in the slightest because of our playing time situation - at least before Ty-Shon announced his departure. That said, as of now we've only got six scholarship players for 21-22. Forget just getting BE level talent, we need bodies, period, for that year.
So while it's overreaction now, I won't lie that I'm starting to get nervous. We're putting pretty much all of our eggs in the baskets of Tamar Bates, Sallis, Jalen Warley, Tucker DeVries, etc. if we don't get any more sit out transfers. And to be totally honest, our overall recruiting performance since the Class of 2017 (TSA, Mitch, Jacob class) doesn't exactly comfort me.



Marcus Zegarowski, Christian Bishop, Denzel Mahoney, Antwann Jones, Alex O’Connell and Ryan Kalkbrenner don’t comfort you?


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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby shadow » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:23 pm

But what are you doing for me Lately as in NOW!!
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby REALITY » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:25 pm

jaysfan3 wrote:
REALITY wrote:
shadow wrote:And another great recruiting coup by our awesome closer staff ! Is it at all possible losing Preston Murphey is killing us?

Ugh. Perhaps a bit of an overreaction?

I will say this, though, it's disheartening to miss on so many sit one transfers. I'm sure a good portion of them are unrealistically hoping that the NCAA does away with the resident year this summer effective immediately (personally, I hate the idea since it'll turn mid-major leagues into a glorified farm system and because every player still can play a full 4 years of college ball despite sitting out a season) and thus we weren't attractive in the slightest because of our playing time situation - at least before Ty-Shon announced his departure. That said, as of now we've only got six scholarship players for 21-22. Forget just getting BE level talent, we need bodies, period, for that year.
So while it's overreaction now, I won't lie that I'm starting to get nervous. We're putting pretty much all of our eggs in the baskets of Tamar Bates, Sallis, Jalen Warley, Tucker DeVries, etc. if we don't get any more sit out transfers. And to be totally honest, our overall recruiting performance since the Class of 2017 (TSA, Mitch, Jacob class) doesn't exactly comfort me.


Marcus Zegarowski, Christian Bishop, Denzel Mahoney, Antwann Jones, Alex O’Connell and Ryan Kalkbrenner don’t comfort you?

You're missing my point. Consider how many targets we whiffed on that led us to recruit the guys you just listed. Ayo Dosunmu and Tyger Campbell were our first couple options at PG; we got Marcus. Same with Filip Petrusev, A.J. Lawson, Swider (though he might have been an OK miss) at the forward/wing spot; we landed Denzel. The only recruits who appear to be our first choice were Bishop and AOC, if you take him at his word.
Yes, Marcus, Christian, and Denzel have been quite successful, but how long do you think we can get lucky with our third, fourth, and even the occasional fifth options and be able to compete in the BE? Remember, our first and second options are generally top 100 4 star frosh or top mid-major transfers, with an occasional periphery 5 star in there, so when you miss you're moving down to 3 star level frosh outside the top 150, less-desired transfers like Damien (who has turned out really well all things considered), and grad transfers to plug holes for a season. Miss on those and you're left with clear cut mid-major level players who you might get lucky with or else they'll be out the door after one season (see Windham, Marlon Stewart, Paras). And two bad class is all it takes to miss multiple NCAA tournaments.
Finally, let us not forget that for the last few years we've been giving a walk-on a scholarship instead of an actual major player. So no, forgive me if our recruiting recently doesn't make me "comfortable."
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby hilltopalum » Thu Apr 16, 2020 3:43 pm

i will say, despite contacting all these transfers, there are only a few that we 100% were interested in signing. A lot of times a staff will show interest to keep other staffs on there toes and occupied talking to recruit A, while the Jays quietly sneak around and steal Alex O Connell...
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Re: 2020 Transfers

Postby Jet915 » Thu Apr 16, 2020 4:08 pm

hilltopalum wrote:i will say, despite contacting all these transfers, there are only a few that we 100% were interested in signing. A lot of times a staff will show interest to keep other staffs on there toes and occupied talking to recruit A, while the Jays quietly sneak around and steal Alex O Connell...


Its been quiet lately, any grad transfer names? We definitely need another guard for next year.
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