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Re: 2019 Class

Postby Brendan259 » Fri May 03, 2019 10:32 am

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gtmoBlue wrote:It is likely that Sean Miller will be out at Arizona. Their 2019 recruits may decommit and Zeke Nnaji may re-enter the market. Could be an opportunity for the Jays.

Arizona, Kentucky, Kansas and UNC were who was on him the hardest before he committed. Not sure why you think we would have a chance there. We offered, but that's all I've seen.

Yeah not sure that we would have a chance, but a very high chance Kansas would get involved again. That would help our case with Enaruna since they play similar positions.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby bluejayfan00 » Fri May 03, 2019 10:36 am

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bluejayfan00 wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:It is likely that Sean Miller will be out at Arizona. Their 2019 recruits may decommit and Zeke Nnaji may re-enter the market. Could be an opportunity for the Jays.

Arizona, Kentucky, Kansas and UNC were who was on him the hardest before he committed. Not sure why you think we would have a chance there. We offered, but that's all I've seen.

Yeah not sure that we would have a chance, but a very high chance Kansas would get involved again. That would help our case with Enaruna since they play similar positions.

Enaruna is more of a wing, but yeah, true. Miller has to get canned first, and Nnaji would have to de-commit. Not holding my breath
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby Trifecta » Tue May 07, 2019 8:57 pm

Somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but at what point do we do a full 180 and go all in on transfers? It's extremely frustrating to watch our staff invest 2, 3, 4 years into recruiting kids and have them be snatched up by higher profile schools. I'm sick of putting all our eggs in one basket and getting stuck holding the short end of the stick when our "main priority" for a recruiting cycle doesn't commit.

We have to find a way to make some sort of sustainable post-season success or we aren't going to land Top 50 kids. I think it's been proven repeatedly during Mac's tenure that blue-chip kids would much rather wave a towel or come off the bench for spot minutes at a blue-blood program than contribute at Creighton. Aside from the coach's son and 2 local, under-the-radar kids when is the last time we had an impact player that wasn't a transfer? MZ might be that guy. But I don't think we can rely on nor expect Omaha metro schools to keep churning out NBA draft picks regularly.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby bluejayfan00 » Tue May 07, 2019 9:01 pm

It’s only year 10 of Mac, and year 7 in the Big East. Give it time, we’re still adjusting!
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby bluejayb13 » Tue May 07, 2019 9:13 pm

Trifecta wrote:Somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but at what point do we do a full 180 and go all in on transfers? It's extremely frustrating to watch our staff invest 2, 3, 4 years into recruiting kids and have them be snatched up by higher profile schools. I'm sick of putting all our eggs in one basket and getting stuck holding the short end of the stick when our "main priority" for a recruiting cycle doesn't commit.

We have to find a way to make some sort of sustainable post-season success or we aren't going to land Top 50 kids. I think it's been proven repeatedly during Mac's tenure that blue-chip kids would much rather wave a towel or come off the bench for spot minutes at a blue-blood program than contribute at Creighton. Aside from the coach's son and 2 local, under-the-radar kids when is the last time we had an impact player that wasn't a transfer? MZ might be that guy. But I don't think we can rely on nor expect Omaha metro schools to keep churning out NBA draft picks regularly.


I will say Patton was not under the radar by the end of highschool, we just got him to commit early while he was.

It is not like this staff has completely failed recruiting, but it is fair to say they have this year. Mitch, Tyshon, and Epperson were all top 100 guys. Zeg, Bishop, and Froling were all top 150. But it is very frustrating wasting all these valuable recruiting resources on guys that go elsewhere. Bowen got us drug into a scandal and we didn't even get him, then missing out on a quality grad transfer last year and now again this year as well as missing out on Enaruna.

What I don't get is their strategy of going all in on one player and not having any sort of plan B. Windham was Creighton's latest signed recruit coming out of highschool, but he fell into their lap due to a coaching change. Other than him, they have signed no highschool recruit later than mid-March. Which begs the question as to why they seemingly don't have a plan B. Also why can they not add a stretch 4? Hopefully there are some surprises to come but I think this staff is really showing what they truly are, good, but not great. There really is no good excuse as to why they will be adding no immediate impact players to next year's team.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby REALITY » Tue May 07, 2019 9:53 pm

When you gamble, you lose. The odds are always in favor of the house. Always.
How we managed to put ourselves in the *EXACT SAME* situation now as we were after Bowen is something else. The staff didn't learn. That's what's sad. And there's no reason why they shouldn't have learned - Mac and Merf are incredibly smart guys. I'm sure Huss and Lusk are, too.

bluejayb13 wrote:
Trifecta wrote:Somewhat tongue-in-cheek, but at what point do we do a full 180 and go all in on transfers? It's extremely frustrating to watch our staff invest 2, 3, 4 years into recruiting kids and have them be snatched up by higher profile schools. I'm sick of putting all our eggs in one basket and getting stuck holding the short end of the stick when our "main priority" for a recruiting cycle doesn't commit.

We have to find a way to make some sort of sustainable post-season success or we aren't going to land Top 50 kids. I think it's been proven repeatedly during Mac's tenure that blue-chip kids would much rather wave a towel or come off the bench for spot minutes at a blue-blood program than contribute at Creighton. Aside from the coach's son and 2 local, under-the-radar kids when is the last time we had an impact player that wasn't a transfer? MZ might be that guy. But I don't think we can rely on nor expect Omaha metro schools to keep churning out NBA draft picks regularly.


I will say Patton was not under the radar by the end of highschool, we just got him to commit early while he was.

It is not like this staff has completely failed recruiting, but it is fair to say they have this year. Mitch, Tyshon, and Epperson were all top 100 guys. Zeg, Bishop, and Froling were all top 150. But it is very frustrating wasting all these valuable recruiting resources on guys that go elsewhere. Bowen got us drug into a scandal and we didn't even get him, then missing out on a quality grad transfer last year and now again this year as well as missing out on Enaruna.

What I don't get is their strategy of going all in on one player and not having any sort of plan B. Windham was Creighton's latest signed recruit coming out of highschool, but he fell into their lap due to a coaching change. Other than him, they have signed no highschool recruit later than mid-March. Which begs the question as to why they seemingly don't have a plan B. Also why can they not add a stretch 4? Hopefully there are some surprises to come but I think this staff is really showing what they truly are, good, but not great. There really is no good excuse as to why they will be adding no immediate impact players to next year's team.

Great comments. Wish I could answer these questions.
I hope this is a wakeup call for our coaches. The top 4 year guys aren't interested in us once bluebloods come into the picture. Stop wasting resources. Invest in transfers again. Just figure it out.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby T-bone » Wed May 08, 2019 6:54 am

But at least in this instance, we recruited him long before he became a top guy.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby drbluejay » Wed May 08, 2019 7:40 am

it isn't easy signing players when your rotation is set with all 5 starters returning as of today. 2017 and 2018 were very good recruiting years for CU and I'm glad CU goes after top 100 players. If you want to reach the top you have to go after top players.
CU loses out on almost all their recruits, just like almost all other teams. Even Kansas has missed on many players this year.
Most schools offer around 30 or more scholarships a year and sign about 3 or 4 a year. That comes out to missing on up to 90% of your offers. I am proud to say CU was in the final 2 or 3 on Enaruna's list and the same goes for Bowen.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby Jet915 » Wed May 08, 2019 8:20 am

drbluejay wrote:it isn't easy signing players when your rotation is set with all 5 starters returning as of today. 2017 and 2018 were very good recruiting years for CU and I'm glad CU goes after top 100 players. If you want to reach the top you have to go after top players.
CU loses out on almost all their recruits, just like almost all other teams. Even Kansas has missed on many players this year.
Most schools offer around 30 or more scholarships a year and sign about 3 or 4 a year. That comes out to missing on up to 90% of your offers. I am proud to say CU was in the final 2 or 3 on Enaruna's list and the same goes for Bowen.


Our frontline rotation is set?
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby jayball » Wed May 08, 2019 8:24 am

dr. --That is absurd. If Martin doesn’t come back we have two frontline players. One who has an injury history

Missing on any one player is not a tragedy, but having one option to fill a need is a reoccurring problem.


And how anyone could be proud to be in the final list of schools for Brian Bowen is beyond me.
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