2021 Class

[bluejayb13]

You can say with 100% certainty that the staff would not be happy with Hepburn and Mors committed? You just said my point was 100% wrong but I'm being the douche...okay. I guess I fail to see why two guys they have offered, both in the top 150, being committed would be a bad thing especially with two slots still open. Yet you can unequivocally say this is something they would not want.

[Altman's Advisor]

You can say with 100% certainty that the staff would not be happy with Hepburn and Mors committed? You just said my point was 100% wrong but I'm being the douche...okay. I guess I fail to see why two guys they have offered, both in the top 150, being committed would be a bad thing especially with two slots still open. Yet you can unequivocally say this is something they would not want.

Maybe because one of them doesn’t fit the system in any way whatsoever. If recruiting rankings were the only thing coaches across the country used there would be no need to travel all over and evaluate players.

[ZMagic30]

You can say with 100% certainty that the staff would not be happy with Hepburn and Mors committed? You just said my point was 100% wrong but I'm being the douche...okay. I guess I fail to see why two guys they have offered, both in the top 150, being committed would be a bad thing especially with two slots still open. Yet you can unequivocally say this is something they would not want.

Maybe because one of them doesn’t fit the system in any way whatsoever. If recruiting rankings were the only thing coaches across the country used there would be no need to travel all over and evaluate players.

If I'm understanding you correctly - looks like they didn't even need to travel

[bluejayb13]

You can say with 100% certainty that the staff would not be happy with Hepburn and Mors committed? You just said my point was 100% wrong but I'm being the douche...okay. I guess I fail to see why two guys they have offered, both in the top 150, being committed would be a bad thing especially with two slots still open. Yet you can unequivocally say this is something they would not want.

Maybe because one of them doesn’t fit the system in any way whatsoever. If recruiting rankings were the only thing coaches across the country used there would be no need to travel all over and evaluate players.

Why the hell did we offer and recruit a guy that "doesn't fit the system in any way whatsoever" ? Again, I can't believe I have to defend recruiting rankings yet again, but top recruiting classes lead to team success.

[Altman's Advisor]

As silly as this sounds not every “offer” is made with the intention of getting that kid to commit. There are only so many open spots on a D1 roster and staffs prioritize some players and slow play others that may also hold offers. The kid and his or her family aren’t the only ones who make the decisions that determine where someone ends up committing.

[bluejayb13]

As silly as this sounds not every “offer” is made with the intention of getting that kid to commit. There are only so many open spots on a D1 roster and staffs prioritize some players and slow play others that may also hold offers. The kid and his or her family aren’t the only ones who make the decisions that determine where someone ends up committing.

I am aware not every offer is not necessarily a committable offer. However, increasing your interest in someone you don't really want to commit doesn't make a lot of sense...especially if he wasn't a player that fits your system whatsoever.

[Syajeulb]

Yawn

[Chicagojayfan]

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I'll push back a bit on being late. Everyone thought NU was too early - they jumped the gun in trying to land a local kid and make some inroads into Omaha. That said, it's different when we are the hometown team and we offer after multiple P5 out of state teams. We saw him all the time and he spent a lot of time on campus and apparently even said that we were his favorite team. Not offering until later was going to make this a problem. If it wasn't a deliberate slap in the face, I can see how he might take it that way.

Outside of Sallis who is possibly our #1 target now, this changes some things from a strategy perspective. Landing those 2 would have allowed us to take more chances and swing for the fences on the remaining scholarships, so I'm sure the coaches would have liked to land them. But this is early in the cycle and we can land a deep and full class -- especially if we get Sallis. Add someone like a Mason Miller and a Tamar Bates into the class and/or Josh Primo and we have a very good class.

Unfortunately Sallis and Primo are pretty likely to receive high major offers from the type of schools it has been mentioned on here that we cannot compete with. Miller is going to be incredibly hard to lure away from Memphis. Bates is a priority and hopefully we can snag him, but after that the only names I have seen thrown around are Jaylon Moses and Chase Courbat. Moses has a lot of programs waiting and seeing how he responds coming off injury though. That is currently 6 targets, 4 spots. Three of those would be the highest ranked recruit in program history if any one of them signed. More than likely we are going to need the transfer market to fill a couple spots.

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Not sure where you got that we "cannot compete with" those high major offers -- We've won recruiting battles against high majors and blue bloods even. Ballock had a Kansas offer and he came to Creighton. So provided we've done the groundwork and built the relationship we can hold on. With Patton, he got a number of high major suitors after us and stayed with us as well. Most recently, Kalkbrenner got a Kansas offer as well.

So, yes, we can beat teams like that for recruits. We can't count on winning all the time, and we have to build the relationship and then hold onto them, but we can do it.

With Sallis, Drake and Ole Miss had offered before us (not sure where the Ole Miss offer came from?), but we were the first big program to offer him and seriously recruit him. Lots of competition coming, but he'd be a great fit at Creighton and I think we've made it clear he's a top guy for us.

Pretty sure we'll target a transfer for one of the 2020 scholarships (might depend on Saunders as he's likely going on his LDS Mission), and then likely one of the 2021's to help split up the size of that class a bit.

[Savannah Jay]

So...we offered some guys we really liked but they chose to commit elsewhere. That's neither awesome nor the end of the world. Did I miss anything?

Go Jays!

[bluejayb13]

Not sure where you got that we "cannot compete with" those high major offers --

It has been said on this website by multiple people countless times....that's why I even mentioned it.