Kerwin Walton 2020 SG

[Savannah Jay]

The level of pettiness some 'adults' have on this board is astounding.

"This kid's a game-changer! What a great possible addition he could be to our program!"

*commits elsewhere*

"Good luck warming up the bench scrub!"


Seriously, be happy for the kid and look ahead to who can now bring in. Maybe leave the passive-aggressive snark for the kids.

^^^What the Dude said...

It's embarrassing, TBH.

[Chicagojayfan]

It's not snark to point out that a lot of these teams want a great shooter to stand in a corner, chuck up a few shots to keep the defenders honest and not much more. We play a share the ball style that isn't embraced by a lot of teams, NC included, IMO

here's a good example:

https://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Ro ... ol-129112/
60th recruit, tons of good offers. Good athlete, but a good outside shooter.

Now, here was his career at NC:

https://247sports.com/Player/Brandon-Ro ... ol-129112/

Anyway, we'll see. Their coaches' comments make is sound like they need a catch and shoot guy and while we use those guys we work them into roles that make them a well rounded player. NC.. we'll see.

Not to mention, it's hard to root for a team whose fans sent death threats to one of our players just a few short years ago, and a team that put together fake classes for their athletes.,., seriously

[Realhoops]

Once again, great closing job recruiting mensas! North Carolina sucked last year, and he picks that over the others? Daddy rules,we drool. Same crap with Damion. Hell, let’s encourage the rest of the freakin team to declare and just give up up basketball at Creighton. God doesn’t want us to EVER rule! I give up!

Damian? Did I miss news?

[vivid_dude]

I'm not a big fan of the attitude fans have toward players who don't choose Creighton. They don't owe us anything. You have no idea what is important to them. You have no idea what is "best fit" for their situation. And you are looking at things from a completely biased perspective of believing with your navy blue heart that Creighton is the best place, when you really have an incomplete picture.

Of course, you can find some examples that you think validates such an opinion, but can you also admit to the opposite? Meaning...players like Kofi Cockburn, Shamorie Ponds, Myles Turner, Devonte Graham, Henry Ellenson, Jalen Brunson, Kevin Huerter, Matt Mooney (grad) etc. - kids who Creighton showed a lot of interest in and offered scholarships - were lucky they didn't pick Creighton because they did so well where they landed? I'm trying to learn the rules of this hypothetical world where space and time have no meaning and everybody is just better off at Creighton. It's narrow-minded "fan talk" to me, and isn't very credible.

To be clear, I think it's okay to believe "from a basketball perspective, I believe Kerwin would have thrived more at Creighton because of our offense." That's not the criticism. It's the snarky, know-it-all, shit-on-the-kid tone. It's thinking you know the whole picture. And re-stating what was stated magnificently above - the "this kid is a program changer...wait, he chose another school...well, enjoy the bench, scrub" vibe.

Best of luck to Kerwin.

[Chicagojayfan]

I'm not a big fan of the attitude fans have toward players who don't choose Creighton. They don't owe us anything. You have no idea what is important to them. You have no idea what is "best fit" for their situation. And you are looking at things from a completely biased perspective of believing with your navy blue heart that Creighton is the best place, when you really have an incomplete picture.

Of course, you can find some examples that you think validates such an opinion, but can you also admit to the opposite? Meaning...players like Kofi Cockburn, Shamorie Ponds, Myles Turner, Devonte Graham, Henry Ellenson, Jalen Brunson, Kevin Huerter, Matt Mooney (grad) etc. - kids who Creighton showed a lot of interest in and offered scholarships - were lucky they didn't pick Creighton because they did so well where they landed? I'm trying to learn the rules of this hypothetical world where space and time have no meaning and everybody is just better off at Creighton. It's narrow-minded "fan talk" to me, and isn't very credible.

To be clear, I think it's okay to believe "from a basketball perspective, I believe Kerwin would have thrived more at Creighton because of our offense." That's not the criticism. It's the snarky, know-it-all, shit-on-the-kid tone. It's thinking you know the whole picture. And re-stating what was stated magnificently above - the "this kid is a program changer...wait, he chose another school...well, enjoy the bench, scrub" vibe.

Best of luck to Kerwin.

I've said it about 4 or 5 players. Enaruna, Walton, Matt McQuaid, Mulder, and I think about another name I can't remember right now. Enaruna didn't play much last year and almost not at all in conference. Mulder played 3.8 mpg and then 10.6 mpg.
McQuaid could have been a starter for 3-4 years for us, but stuck it out at Mich. State and started his senior year with < 20MPG in conference for his first 3 seasons. Decent bench player, but was often just a shooter off the bench.

didn't say it about any of the others on your list. Ponds, for instance was going to get every change to get high usage at St. Johns, he wasn't a shooter who was going to be standing in a corner playing decoy.

The circumstances are basically this - if you don't play a lot above the rim, and you are a shooter, and you go to a top 5-10 blue blood type program, don't be surprised if you end up sitting in a corner waiting for a few shots to come your way while you play decoy. Unlike a lot of programs, Creighton really knows how to integrate a shooter into our offense, not just make them a nice add on for whatever it is the coach really wants to do.

[LynchMob]

It's fair to change your evaluation of a kid's mental makeup when he picks a minor role on a well-known squad, happy to be outshined, instead of making the most of his opportunity and blazing his own trail. Not going to throw a fit over it, but it makes sense.

[vivid_dude]

It's fair to change your evaluation of a kid's mental makeup when he picks a minor role on a well-known squad, happy to be outshined, instead of making the most of his opportunity and blazing his own trail. Not going to throw a fit over it, but it makes sense.

Your entire “change in evaluation” is based on the clear false premise that Kerwin believes he is picking a minor role position. You could compellingly argue his role at Creighton next year would be “more minor” than the role at UNC. And he’s been clear he wants to play as a freshman and carve a prompt path to professional basketball. UNC kind of has a track record of doing okay sending players to NBA, so that was a factor.

But you can change your evaluation of Kerwin’s mental makeup based on a garbage premise if you want. I won’t throw a fit over it.

[bleedblue]

Bump

[gtmoBlue]

Of course, you can find some examples that you think validates such an opinion, but can you also admit to the opposite?
Meaning...players like Kofi Cockburn, Shamorie Ponds, Myles Turner, Devonte Graham, Henry Ellenson, Jalen Brunson, Kevin Huerter, Matt Mooney (grad) etc. - kids who Creighton showed a lot of interest in and offered scholarships - were lucky they didn't pick Creighton because they did so well where they landed?

I don't mean to be 'picky'... on a 2 year old quote. However, How the hell did you leave my boy Reid Travis off this list?

[JayMob]

It's fair to change your evaluation of a kid's mental makeup when he picks a minor role on a well-known squad, happy to be outshined, instead of making the most of his opportunity and blazing his own trail. Not going to throw a fit over it, but it makes sense.

The extremely rare accurate take from me.