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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby REALITY » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:14 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:
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hilltopalum wrote:The idea fit for next years roster is Chris Clarke. He is the junkyard dog, lock down wing, gritty player this squad desperately needs. Not sure he's interested in being a 4 man though. Creighton was in on Clarke to the very end, and despite his recruitment being led by Lutz/Sellers, Mac got very involved.


As everyone knows, Clarke was suspended from VT last year. No reason was given, of course, but some VT fans believe that it was domestic violence related. He was also charged with marijuana possession in April. His teammate and roommate, Ty Outlaw, was first accused but it was later determined that it was Clarke's.
The latter really doesn't bother me, but the former does if it's true. Regardless they're both red flags.


So who do you recommend we go after?

OK first I didn't make any judgement since we there were never charges filed (like in most domestic violence cases).
But since you ask I prefer to go after people who don't assault others. I'm guessing you're cool with that though?
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby Helmzy » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:16 pm

Who cares if we go after those type of players. Mac can obviously change lives at Creighton.
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby REALITY » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:29 pm

Helmzy wrote:Who cares if we go after those type of players. Mac can obviously change lives at Creighton.

Sure he's helped all sorts of young men become professional basketball players and millionaires. That's changing lives I guess. But that's not the point you should be concerned about.
So what evidence do you have other than anecdote that he's actually helping them become better people? And has he helped anyone who acted abusively towards others change their behavior?
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby Chicagojayfan » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:46 pm

REALITY wrote:
gtmoBlue wrote:
REALITY wrote:...

As everyone knows, Clarke was suspended from VT last year. No reason was given, of course, but some VT fans believe that it was domestic violence related. He was also charged with marijuana possession in April. His teammate and roommate, Ty Outlaw, was first accused but it was later determined that it was Clarke's.
The latter really doesn't bother me, but the former does if it's true. Regardless they're both red flags.


So who do you recommend we go after?

OK first I didn't make any judgement since we there were never charges filed (like in most domestic violence cases).
But since you ask I prefer to go after people who don't assault others. I'm guessing you're cool with that though?


Obviously, we aren't going to bring someone in who committed domestic violence, and we would want to do some real due diligence to figure out what really happened, but the mere accusation of domestic violence shouldn't mean that a kid should never play sports again (and we're talking a hypothetical based on "some VT fans" who believed that was the cause of the suspension).

Holding a bit of weed doesn't bother me a bit.

Agree with Hilltopalum, we could use a tough, hard nosed player like that if were comfortable with the circumstances of his suspension, whatever it may be
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby gtmoBlue » Thu Apr 18, 2019 12:47 pm

Hilltopalum had thrown out a few names of potential players to go after, Clarke among them. Judging by your comments I thought you had someone specifically in mind, that's why I asked you for your recommendations. No need to get defensive.
No, I am not "cool" with domestic violence.
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby REALITY » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:08 pm

gtmoBlue wrote:Hilltopalum had thrown out a few names of potential players to go after, Clarke among them. Judging by your comments I thought you had someone specifically in mind, that's why I asked you for your recommendations. No need to get defensive.
No, I am not "cool" with domestic violence.

:oops: Totally misinterpreted your point. My apologies.
And no, no other ideas in terms of recruits.
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby REALITY » Thu Apr 18, 2019 3:30 pm

Chicagojayfan wrote:Obviously, we aren't going to bring someone in who committed domestic violence, and we would want to do some real due diligence to figure out what really happened, but the mere accusation of domestic violence shouldn't mean that a kid should never play sports again (and we're talking a hypothetical based on "some VT fans" who believed that was the cause of the suspension).

Holding a bit of weed doesn't bother me a bit.

Agree with Hilltopalum, we could use a tough, hard nosed player like that if were comfortable with the circumstances of his suspension, whatever it may be

Agreed on all counts.

Another point back on Clarke on the court. I do wonder if he'd be a lesser shooting duplicate of Mahoney or Damien. He's built like both of them for one thing. Then he's obviously very good at attacking the paint like both of them (shot .576 from inside the arc at VT). Mahoney's shot 50% from inside the arc for his career, Jefferson 58% (but on about 2 shots per game less). Clarke got to the line 3.6 times per game (less than Mahoney's 5.9 times per game, at SEMO mind you, and more than Jefferson's 1.6 times per game).
In terms of behind the arc he shot 33% at VT on less than 1 shot per game. That's a bit better than Jefferson's 30% for his career though he shot 41.2% this season and worse than Mahoney's 40% for his career.
In terms of rebounding, he averages 10.4 per 40 versus Damien's 9 per 40 and Mahoney's 6.1 per 40.

Keep in mind, though, that Clarke has played in a considerably better conference and faced consistently better competition for 3 years vs Denzel (0) and Damien (1). So it might be wise to slightly discount the latter's stats as a result.
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby westojay » Thu Apr 18, 2019 7:25 pm

REALITY wrote:Here's some film on Kavas. It's difficult to evaluate him given the talent disparity between the BE and WAC.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hERpFr1rWjY

He broke his shin in January this last season and it looks like he didn't get all the way back before Seattle's season ended (averaged less than 10 MPG and didn't score in 5 of the 8 games he returned for).
In 17-18 he averaged 15.2 PPG, 5.1 RPG, and shot 46.4% on 5.9 3s/game. 54% of his shots were from behind the arc. Got to the stripe about 2.6 times per game so he's mostly doing his damage with the jumper. Sounds like a perfect fit for the 4 here.

Given that he's from the same town, Martin has to know him, right? I'd imagine that he could provide our staff with quite a bit of info that highlights and stats may not. Might help with recruiting, too, if we're interested.

Visiting Nebraska this weekend. Go figure.
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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby LJay » Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:15 pm

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Re: Transfer Targets :: 2019

Postby fritzpointer » Sat Apr 20, 2019 11:02 pm

Dalano would be great get for the Jays. Go Jays!
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