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Re: 2019 Class

Postby bluejayfan00 » Wed May 08, 2019 8:42 am

drbluejay wrote:it isn't easy signing players when your rotation is set with all 5 starters returning as of today. 2017 and 2018 were very good recruiting years for CU and I'm glad CU goes after top 100 players. If you want to reach the top you have to go after top players.
CU loses out on almost all their recruits, just like almost all other teams. Even Kansas has missed on many players this year.
Most schools offer around 30 or more scholarships a year and sign about 3 or 4 a year. That comes out to missing on up to 90% of your offers. I am proud to say CU was in the final 2 or 3 on Enaruna's list and the same goes for Bowen.

This is ridiculous.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby ictjay » Wed May 08, 2019 8:45 am

Too bad for Huss. Was on Tristan from the beginning. I get all the KU blue blood blah blah, but CU has a TON to offer to a player like Tristan. Needed to close the deal.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby cu8493 » Wed May 08, 2019 8:59 am

To drbluejay and those of his thinking, we are set in the front line because we only need one plus a back up.

What exactly does CU have to offer him? If you are Enaruna, why would you come to Creighton? Who of Ballock, Z, TyShon or Mintz do you think would sit next year for Enaruna to be on the floor for any significant minutes? if Krampelj comes back, we have 3 guys on the roster now vying for the 40 minutes at the 5, Enruna make 4 for one spot. If Krampelj doesn't come back, you still have 2 other guys to battle for one spot on the floor. Mintz is gone after this year, but we have a transfer and other shooting guards coming in to fill the 4th guard spot the following year. By all appearances, both in observing what is on the floor and listening to Mac talk, he is all in on the 4 guard offense. This is the wave of the future we keep hearing from some of you. So, if you are 6'7" to 6'10" "stretch four", why would you come to Creighton to be pushed into a logjam of other 6'8" to 6'10" guys fighting over the 40 minutes available at the 5? Because if I am watching this year as Enaruna, that is what I see. He might as well go battle for time at a team that has a shot at the final four most years and live the high life of a blue-blood ball player.

So, my bigger question is why did the staff put so much time and resources into a guy who doesn't fit the scheme we are playing? Shoot for more 6'4" shooters and one big banger each year, and leave the 6'7" to 6'10" forwards to the teams that still see value in putting more than one guy bigger than 6'5" on the floor at a time.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby whtblu » Wed May 08, 2019 9:10 am

cu8493 wrote:To drbluejay and those of his thinking, we are set in the front line because we only need one plus a back up.

What exactly does CU have to offer him? If you are Enaruna, why would you come to Creighton? Who of Ballock, Z, TyShon or Mintz do you think would sit next year for Enaruna to be on the floor for any significant minutes? if Krampelj comes back, we have 3 guys on the roster now vying for the 40 minutes at the 5, Enruna make 4 for one spot. If Krampelj doesn't come back, you still have 2 other guys to battle for one spot on the floor. Mintz is gone after this year, but we have a transfer and other shooting guards coming in to fill the 4th guard spot the following year. By all appearances, both in observing what is on the floor and listening to Mac talk, he is all in on the 4 guard offense. This is the wave of the future we keep hearing from some of you. So, if you are 6'7" to 6'10" "stretch four", why would you come to Creighton to be pushed into a logjam of other 6'8" to 6'10" guys fighting over the 40 minutes available at the 5? Because if I am watching this year as Enaruna, that is what I see. He might as well go battle for time at a team that has a shot at the final four most years and live the high life of a blue-blood ball player.

So, my bigger question is why did the staff put so much time and resources into a guy who doesn't fit the scheme we are playing? Shoot for more 6'4" shooters and one big banger each year, and leave the 6'7" to 6'10" forwards to the teams that still see value in putting more than one guy bigger than 6'5" on the floor at a time.


You honestly think we want 4 6'4" dudes out there at once? No, we play that way because that's what our roster is right now. You don't think that if we had a 6'10" dude who could handle and shoot it that we wouldn't play him as a stretch 4 (ala Doug)? The reason Christian played the 5 was because he lacked exactly those skills. Tristan, it seems, has them. You don't know our scheme very well if you think Tristan didn't fit it.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby #RollJays » Wed May 08, 2019 9:15 am

cu8493 wrote:To drbluejay and those of his thinking, we are set in the front line because we only need one plus a back up.

What exactly does CU have to offer him? If you are Enaruna, why would you come to Creighton? Who of Ballock, Z, TyShon or Mintz do you think would sit next year for Enaruna to be on the floor for any significant minutes? if Krampelj comes back, we have 3 guys on the roster now vying for the 40 minutes at the 5, Enruna make 4 for one spot. If Krampelj doesn't come back, you still have 2 other guys to battle for one spot on the floor. Mintz is gone after this year, but we have a transfer and other shooting guards coming in to fill the 4th guard spot the following year. By all appearances, both in observing what is on the floor and listening to Mac talk, he is all in on the 4 guard offense. This is the wave of the future we keep hearing from some of you. So, if you are 6'7" to 6'10" "stretch four", why would you come to Creighton to be pushed into a logjam of other 6'8" to 6'10" guys fighting over the 40 minutes available at the 5? Because if I am watching this year as Enaruna, that is what I see. He might as well go battle for time at a team that has a shot at the final four most years and live the high life of a blue-blood ball player.

So, my bigger question is why did the staff put so much time and resources into a guy who doesn't fit the scheme we are playing? Shoot for more 6'4" shooters and one big banger each year, and leave the 6'7" to 6'10" forwards to the teams that still see value in putting more than one guy bigger than 6'5" on the floor at a time.

This is just dumb. Doug, Cole Huff, Toby were all 6’7+ and played the 4 spot. We play small 1 year and now it’s the norm? I agree that if Martin doesn’t come back we are in a boatload of trouble.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby Alphawalt » Wed May 08, 2019 10:00 am

bluejayfan00 wrote:
drbluejay wrote:it isn't easy signing players when your rotation is set with all 5 starters returning as of today. 2017 and 2018 were very good recruiting years for CU and I'm glad CU goes after top 100 players. If you want to reach the top you have to go after top players.
CU loses out on almost all their recruits, just like almost all other teams. Even Kansas has missed on many players this year.
Most schools offer around 30 or more scholarships a year and sign about 3 or 4 a year. That comes out to missing on up to 90% of your offers. I am proud to say CU was in the final 2 or 3 on Enaruna's list and the same goes for Bowen.

This is ridiculous.


After reading his recurring bad posts, I don’t think drbluejay is a real doctor.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby bluejayb13 » Wed May 08, 2019 11:30 am

cu8493 wrote:To drbluejay and those of his thinking, we are set in the front line because we only need one plus a back up.

What exactly does CU have to offer him? If you are Enaruna, why would you come to Creighton? Who of Ballock, Z, TyShon or Mintz do you think would sit next year for Enaruna to be on the floor for any significant minutes? if Krampelj comes back, we have 3 guys on the roster now vying for the 40 minutes at the 5, Enruna make 4 for one spot. If Krampelj doesn't come back, you still have 2 other guys to battle for one spot on the floor. Mintz is gone after this year, but we have a transfer and other shooting guards coming in to fill the 4th guard spot the following year. By all appearances, both in observing what is on the floor and listening to Mac talk, he is all in on the 4 guard offense. This is the wave of the future we keep hearing from some of you. So, if you are 6'7" to 6'10" "stretch four", why would you come to Creighton to be pushed into a logjam of other 6'8" to 6'10" guys fighting over the 40 minutes available at the 5? Because if I am watching this year as Enaruna, that is what I see. He might as well go battle for time at a team that has a shot at the final four most years and live the high life of a blue-blood ball player.

So, my bigger question is why did the staff put so much time and resources into a guy who doesn't fit the scheme we are playing? Shoot for more 6'4" shooters and one big banger each year, and leave the 6'7" to 6'10" forwards to the teams that still see value in putting more than one guy bigger than 6'5" on the floor at a time.


What?!?!? You think we need more 6'4 guards? What roster are you looking at? This notion that Creighton's roster as currently constructed is the best it can/will get, and that there wasn't PT for a top 50 player is bananaland. As of right now Creighton with Martin is probably a 8-10 seed. If he leaves they are on the bubble just like this year. I just don't understand how you think there is no floor time up for grabs.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby cu8493 » Wed May 08, 2019 12:23 pm

Some of you need to learn reading comprehension before firing off a response. Where did I say that's what I want? But, what have some of you been saying all year? four guard this, four guards that -- That's the direction all the good teams are going, blah, blah, blah. Well, answer my question. Who is going to sit so Enaruna can play the minutes he wants? Mintz? Ballock? TyShon? Z? Jefferson? Mahony is supposedly the best of all, so you have to fit him in also. Because if Mac is going to play a true four and Martin or Epperson, assuming he is back, then someone isn't getting minutes out of those
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby bluejayb13 » Wed May 08, 2019 12:34 pm

cu8493 wrote:Some of you need to learn reading comprehension before firing off a response. Where did I say that's what I want? But, what have some of you been saying all year? four guard this, four guards that -- That's the direction all the good teams are going, blah, blah, blah. Well, answer my question. Who is going to sit so Enaruna can play the minutes he wants? Mintz? Ballock? TyShon? Z? Jefferson? Mahony is supposedly the best of all, so you have to fit him in also. Because if Mac is going to play a true four and Martin or Epperson, assuming he is back, then someone isn't getting minutes out of those


If Enaruna would have lived up to his top 50 ranking, I don't care who sits. We need a player like him with size, length, athleticism, and shooting ability in this roster. We don't have it right now. To answer your question, it is probably a mix. Marcus and Davion averaged 30 mins a game last year, Mitch and Tyshon 33. take 5 from all of those and you have 20 mins a game. Sorry, but if your roster as currently constructed is a bubble team without Martin, you need help in the form of recruits. Reading your statement it seems like we are a sweet 16 lock trying to plug in pieces to get to the final 4. You can't be worried about taking minutes from players if the player that would be taking those minutes makes you a better team.
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Re: 2019 Class

Postby Chicagojayfan » Wed May 08, 2019 12:40 pm

cu8493 wrote:Some of you need to learn reading comprehension before firing off a response. Where did I say that's what I want? But, what have some of you been saying all year? four guard this, four guards that -- That's the direction all the good teams are going, blah, blah, blah. Well, answer my question. Who is going to sit so Enaruna can play the minutes he wants? Mintz? Ballock? TyShon? Z? Jefferson? Mahony is supposedly the best of all, so you have to fit him in also. Because if Mac is going to play a true four and Martin or Epperson, assuming he is back, then someone isn't getting minutes out of those


I would have thought Enaruna would have gotten Minutes like Alexander or Ballock got as Freshman -- at about 20 minutes a game. The best thing for us with him was that he had height and skills that are different than the other options we have.

Bishop's going to be fighting for the minutes in a 4/5 role as well, but this opens up more of an opportunity for him. Martin's 3 PT shooting last year at the end of the year was outstanding, so I could see a combo of the two of them in the front court working as well. A healthy Epperson gets minutes as well, and maybe a lot of them.. pushing Bishop to more minutes at the 4 if we have the skills at the 5 and/or Bishop develops more wing stills to keep the spacing

Minutes are going to be tough for anyone, though. Jefferson should be healthy again, Mahoney is supposed to be great, Ballock will be healthy and better, Alexander a year older and stronger, Marcus more mature.. And Mac will play a taller guy at the 4, but they have to be able to shoot enough to keep the spacing.
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